Bear Griles vrs Survivorman

Since no one at home wants to discuss presidential candidates with me for some reason, I was only able to instigate some meaningful debate last night on which of the 2 survival gurus currently on Discovery is the most authentic and entertaining. Actually this debate has been raging for some time and last night did nothing to settle it but it was fun anyway. Dan and his buddies all agree Survivor man is the real deal, their allegiance is based mostly on the fact that he is truly by himself and can't take any off camera help from his camera team or share any of their food and drinks which obviously they must have, they also site some instances where Bear Grilles got in a little to deep and accepted help on camera.(only because he was about to die). They all agree Bear went a little to far in the African desert for water when he squeezed an elephant turd till some precious moisture dripped into his mouth,They also all agreed they would rather die than drink that. Kirsti can't understand why anyone would put themselves through such discomfort for the entertainment of others so she is in the undecided category,I should say, she has decided, they are both a couple of nuts. For me its a close call, the points the 13 year old crowd make are all valid. For authenticity Survivorman scores highly. He may eat a bug or 2 along the way but he won't humiliate himself by drinking the moisture from animal waste. Griles lays it all on the line, maybe because there is always someone there to bale him out/ or carry his body out, but even so he takes some chances that are completely insane and for me that puts him slightly over Survivorman. For me the final nail in Survivor Man's coffin was when he left a team of sled dogs to fend for themselves in Labrador while he was airlifted out to safety. I hope they went to get them later, but there was never any mention of their fate. They are both interesting to watch and probably fit that frozen Bozo category refered to periodically here.